The Elan School: Death By Misinformation | Corporate Casket

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gem kay
gem kay

The snatching thing is still very relèvent in today’s scammy troubled teen buildings

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Zuzu
Zuzu

21:39 pronounced "Poss-Eee's" not "Poss'is" 🤭 (it's a cowboy term)

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scout l4t
scout l4t

22:01 why is nobody talking about this

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Aurora Sky
Aurora Sky

As an autistic woman if I got outed like that I would have been so pissed ( my sad is mild so most don’t notice I have it) cause it will change the way people would look at me. Also semi autistic? I’ve never heard someone say that usually you either have it or don’t so I’m curious what they meant by that. Also this whole school is a mess honestly whenever I read up on places like this it’s heartbreaking to hear the abuse and humiliation that the people who went to these places went through.

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Britney Owneby
Britney Owneby

Violence only begets more violence

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FacesOfMaco
FacesOfMaco

just thinking about the fact that i live near there makes me shiver.

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chdreturns
chdreturns

Please, please PLEASE do one on Woods Services... It's really juicy.

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Evan Lukash
Evan Lukash

Posses is a VERY commonly used word. It's pronounced paa-sees . Why would you put an emphasis on this word as if the people who use it are dumb if you're going to mispronounce it

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Talyn has time
Talyn has time

This has to be one of the most irresponsible “help treatments” I’ve ever seen. God the 70s were fucked.

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Amber Kat
Amber Kat

How did they plan to treat learning disabilities with shouting and humiliation, exactly?

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jizburg
jizburg

Holy shit... If one of my friends or familymembers got killed like that i would have gone all Conan barbarian, heads on pikes and all.

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VV
VV

I heard "Poland" and gasped, I thought she meant the country lol (I'm Polish)

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Lecherous Librarian
Lecherous Librarian

This is anecdotal information, so don't take it as fact, but I heard about an African tribe that would surround someone who did something wrong and remind them of all the good things they had done in the past. Basically, the opposite of attack therapy. In my experience, again this is anecdotal, I find positive reinforcement to be much more effective than negative reinforcement.

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Eggs Benedict Cucumber Patch
Eggs Benedict Cucumber Patch

... You think this is bad? I challenge you to read about Canada's residential schools... Spoiler the term "kill the Indian in the child" was used by a prime minister.

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Grey Wolf
Grey Wolf

Ok but i want to be the house dog

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Grey Wolf
Grey Wolf

That whole taking kids against thier will thing is fucking insane

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Madrainbow
Madrainbow

Where was the school again?

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Malabar
Malabar

Don't get it twisted -- Ricci was a piece of shit.

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Joseph Wood
Joseph Wood

Digging holes builds character.

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Adrienne Farrell
Adrienne Farrell

Appreciated your viewpoint about Elan schools, The documentary about this school is crazy, basically Lord of the flies.

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Crystal Waites
Crystal Waites

18:56

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Alex
Alex

Heh. I'm from Poland (Europe), and for a few minutes I was very confused, how could one school in Poland (again, Europe) have this amount of American students in it, and, why even xD

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IngetKant
IngetKant

As an abuse victim who dealt with far less then these kids but is still struggling 20 years later, I genuine broke down crying because of this.

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Eric Ruiz
Eric Ruiz

I immediately thought something alot kinkier when she said "a bunny suit and shackles".

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Eric Ruiz
Eric Ruiz

I've been at 2 highschools. Between the two, kids did all the things the kids in this school did.

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William Chamberlain
William Chamberlain

09:46 "Let's get right into that" You keep using that phrase. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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William Chamberlain
William Chamberlain

'Élan' is what the French generals thought would let their troops beat German machine guns in WWI.

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Nora Daly
Nora Daly

props for pronouncing Bangor correctly

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Andrew Roes
Andrew Roes

Elan was a school run by students and shut down by students. Thank god for the internet. I was a resident there from 2008-2011 (Close). The 80's and 90's were much worse, but it was still an absolute shit show when I was there. There's not a day that goes by where I don't think about this place and it's been 10 years. This video talks about how staff members were mentally abusive....yes, they were, but the other students there, the ones that conformed (brainwashed) were equally abusive and added to the emotional trauma. Staff members Jeff Gottlieb, Peter Rowe, Missy Esty, Clare Woodman and Sharon Terry were all power hungry, evil individuals who deserve to be locked up. I think Sharon actually died, idk. Thank you for making this video and getting the word about this place out there even more.

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Bella's Shelf
Bella's Shelf

The school was ill-equipped to handle the influx of children that came in with severe problems. Everything from autism, Learning disabilities, severe trauma from lifelong abuse of every type of imaginable, drug problems, being born addicted to drugs and alcohol, fetal alcohol syndrome, kids that came to that school that had been on severe psychiatric drugs for years were never detoxed properly, there was no such thing as proper treatment or therapy or even schooling for any of the above and then some. When Joe figured out he could make so much more money taking in problem kids under the age of 18 of course he was on board. Especially when the individual states and education systems started paying his exorbitant tuition The place was a true shit hole. There was one group of students that can tell you how they went weeks with no clean water, no electricity, after a big storm

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Bella's Shelf
Bella's Shelf

I don't know if it's true or not, but somebody told me one time that Joe was not even really a big H addict that that was just kind of like his image or whatever. I don't know if that's true or not because so many things have been said about him. But that's just one of them

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Azura Star
Azura Star

A person I used to know said that his son had been diagnosed borderline Autistic. I do not know if these are the same thing or if that was the doctors exact words. I do know that the child did show signs of autistic behavior and, as a retail worker I have since seen the child in my store after I quit being friends with said person and the behavior has only worsened with time.

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David Hirsh
David Hirsh

I was in Elan from April, 1984 to December, 1985. 21 long months and three days. I started a website in the late 90s aimed at exposing the atrocities of Elan. Over time, others followed. Mine was the first. I ended up being interviewed by everyone from The Chicago Tribune to Details Magazine during the chaotic days of the Michael Skakel trial. Everyone wanted to know what Elan was all about. It was somewhat tortuous having to relive the experience all over again at the time, as it still seemed too soon to dig up from the hidden recesses of my memories. Still, it was and still is important for others to know what it was like being there from a firsthand account. For reasons such as this, I welcome questions from those wanting to know more. I'll answer as often as I can. Although I wasn't directly involved in shutting Elan down, my website was a catalyst in everything that followed. I have been writing a book off-and-on for a number of years and hope to finish it soon. To this day, I continue to search for those I spent my days with in those horrific years in Maine.

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Malabar
Malabar

Hope you finish your book, my brother. Bless you forever, you got my love and support.

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Jace The Man
Jace The Man

That funny thumbnail. A satanist is praying. Lol

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Peridot Lazuli
Peridot Lazuli

Someone has probably already answered this, but no, “semi-autistic” is not a legit term. Autism itself is a spectrum that encompasses a lot of different experiences, but the whole idea of being “a little bit autistic” is flawed. Usually what people mean to say is, “this person is autistic, but they don’t fit my stereotypical idea of what an autistic person looks like”.

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syy
syy

18:34 i get that this is your general rhetoric, that you want to portray both sides of the story, and most of the time i really appreciate it. but here it really really doesn't work, as it comes off as a touch victim blame-y. i'm not saying that's what you're doing, esp because you definitely show the kids weren't lying, but it does echo the things people say when doubting victim accounts, especially since there appears to be no reason to doubt the students' retellings. perhaps there are times when it's best to hold back on the both sides evaluation.

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Ursula King
Ursula King

In stories like this I never understand how the initial kidnapping is legal, minor or not.

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Ultimate Basement Dweller
Ultimate Basement Dweller

Thank you for not saying the "s" in our state's name

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Katrina Payne
Katrina Payne

That opening keeps reminding me of Linkara's Atop The Fourth Wall (Where bad comics burn)... and has me wondering, "cross over when?"

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Laura Gregory
Laura Gregory

I went to one of those kinds of schools. I don't have an opinion here but: People will lie about anything and everything they can in those places because that's survival.

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Laura Gregory
Laura Gregory

& holy shit you are covering all aspects of this. Praise!

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Tommy Turnbull
Tommy Turnbull

Florida School For Boys had a case similar to this, but with cats instead of dogs. When they found out that Sam Johnson was female, they forced her to wear a tattered calico cat costume, and she’d be beaten with a leash if she spoke instead of meowed. The last time they saw her, she was singing a melody which inspired the Pico’s school theme a few years later. She was taught to do tricks by depressed inmates as a form of stress. She was named Mrs. Paws as a cat.

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Swollen Thooth
Swollen Thooth

Funny how trying to “heal” deeper traumas with “tough love” abuse and religion has never fucking worked and just takes advantage of a person’s unstable foundations to get them hooked on abusive patterns and thought stopping cliches to survive I’m in the demographic of people who could’ve been sent to Elan and just hearing things I’m dealing with mentioned in conjunction with it made my stomach drop. You can’t torture someone until they’re normal. If they act normal after that kind of abuse you’ve really made a whole new animal by hurting a person that badly and that long term.

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Swollen Thooth
Swollen Thooth

“Making troubled teenagers try to kill each other for dominance doesn’t seem to be curing them and turning them into healthy folks” WOW REALLY

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Swollen Thooth
Swollen Thooth

“Even if you fight back you’ll be tortured until you learn” raises eyebrows in human rights movements being told that exact same fucking shit

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Swollen Thooth
Swollen Thooth

Looks like somebody should not have shown Ricci Fight Club because he thought it was aspirational

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Swollen Thooth
Swollen Thooth

When you would have done less damage to people being in the actual mafia than starting a school is a whole lot

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Swollen Thooth
Swollen Thooth

Wow richi assaulted someone. Shooooocking.

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kelsey m
kelsey m

please talk about synanon, my grandma was involved, maybe forced, in that cult and holy shit it explains a lot. no one in my family knew until only a few years ago??? god it’s crazy

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#1Simp DotExe
#1Simp DotExe

5:01 the speed of which i looked up from my phone when i heard this--

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Kyle Baltzer
Kyle Baltzer

26:00 just ask Bandai seems to work out well for them $$$$$:)

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Vilma Par
Vilma Par

13.40 hmm sounds like dr Phil's camp

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Kyle W.
Kyle W.

I think the main reason this got so much coverage was related to the racial and socioeconomic background of the patients and their families. These kinds of schools exist in the dozens in inner cities and no one bats a eyelash

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Omega Gaming
Omega Gaming

I could just imagine a student uprising, then that shit would get shut down.

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Crimson fox
Crimson fox

As some who goes to a behavioral health school (Soaring Heights) this isn't how things should run THROWING A CHILD INTO A VAN will only escalate the problem and make them even more resentful. Even if they're threatening to kill themselves or others throwing them into a van and carting them off with NO INFORMATION about where they are heading does more harm than good.

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Shelter Two
Shelter Two

The thing about child abuse that really gets under my skin is the fact that people don’t believe them until they’re either in a hospital bed or a body bag. There’s this inherent bias that adults have toward other adults & an immediate dismissal of anything children tell them.

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renad
renad

I actually cried while watching it's so heartbreaking, my heart goes to all the kids

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Flashbangb4
Flashbangb4

open for 41 years. I'd say that's more than a woops, oversight. This was a sanctioned mind control experiment/satanic abuse cult.

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Salvatore Shiggerino
Salvatore Shiggerino

Sounds like a fun summer camp for legitimately psychopathic kids. They take pleasure in terrorizing their peers and can move easily up the ranks and graduate highly skilled in abuse.

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Ruby Redfort
Ruby Redfort

As an autistic person myself, I think the term 'semi-autism' was just a very wrong and inaccurate way of saying 'high-functioning' or Asperger's since functioning labels didn't exist at the time that woman would've been at Elan. It still sucks though, like, just say she's autistic, there's no shame in that! I also think that with the boy who died, it's possible that the aneurysm thing could've also been true because of his implied history of migraines long before he was enrolled there. Or he could've had some other similar condition. And if that's true, then that is just sickening. It's horrible that kids with autism or other disabilities were sent there not because they were bad, but just because they were different! And it's also horrible that Phil, the boy who died, was also sent there basically for being sick. He should've been taken to a doctor, not some place to have the shit beaten out of him!!

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Brelonwy
Brelonwy

It's time to call this place what it is: a boot camp. A boot camp where kids and teens with behavioral issues or anything the parents don't like are sent off to be "treated." If you're curious, I highly recommend the book "Boot camp" by Todd Strasser. It's disturbing but riveting and gives a good description of what goes on at these places

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Judas Iscariot
Judas Iscariot

I hope one day that the Elan School is either bulldozed down and turned into a forest, or blown up with C-4 with the staff responsible inside. It is a nightmarish gulag for kids and teens from the sounds of it.

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Judas Iscariot
Judas Iscariot

@Yes Man Do you think that there are some freakish mix of a feral ghoul and super mutant out there called a super feral mutant?

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Yes Man
Yes Man

@Judas Iscariot depends how bad the FEV effected the individually super mutant. some r hella smart. most tho- are IDIOTZ.

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Judas Iscariot
Judas Iscariot

@Yes Man Oh hey Yes Man. Do you think super mutants are clinically retarded?

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Yes Man
Yes Man

agreed

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Mice Are Nice
Mice Are Nice

I watched a reddit compilation (background noise) and a person told a horrific story. This idiot in comments waxed poetic in lofty terms about the literary style of this piece of fiction. I am trying to decide if I am going to go full sarcasm or not (perhaps limit your elevated literary critique to a book reading and wine tasting event than a survivor's experience)

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drkmgic
drkmgic

this reminds me of paris hilton's documentary

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squarepotatoes
squarepotatoes

"Teenagers" by My Chemical Romance comes to mind

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Dwarf-Elvish Diplomacy
Dwarf-Elvish Diplomacy

These kids are destroying their lifes with casually taking drugs, better make sure we destroy their lifes profesionally

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LethalBubbles
LethalBubbles

please don't point during trigger warnings sheesh. I don't like that pointing frame in general tbh.

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Chaz Nelson
Chaz Nelson

I'm not sure if you knew this but there's a comic made by a person who went and expierienced everything first hand. He goes by a psudonym called Joe Nobody. It details alot of things that happened and how they functioned

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SammyGecko_
SammyGecko_

Parents sending their kids away because they don’t know how to handle them sound like the stories of when people return/abandon a “pet” they can’t reasonably control anymore. Just like both cases, I just wish they got the answers/information they needed so they wouldn’t be so over their heads and possibly preyed upon by “last resorts”

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Le good boi
Le good boi

Ay my name is Elan

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Pastel Demon
Pastel Demon

⚠️ TRIGGER WARNING FOR 18:44 - 18:55 ⚠️ FOR ANYONE WHO GREW UP IN AN ABUSIVE HOUSE HOLD, PLEASE SKIP THIS SECTION! THERE IS EXTREME VERBAL ABUSE WITH NO TRIGGER WARNING SO PLEASE WATCH WITH CAUTION

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Jerry Murry
Jerry Murry

Those snatchings sound a whole heck of a lot like child abuse and trauma.

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Sugar Honey Iced Tea
Sugar Honey Iced Tea

If you feel that your child is too "difficult" to handle that you have to send them to a special school to "correct" them, you never deserved to be a parent. Why TF would you have children when you're not prepared to take care of them yourself, when you're stupid enough to send them to an abusive school rather than a qualified therapist. I swear some people should never be parents.

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misspinkpunkykat
misspinkpunkykat

This "school" was featured in a documentary called "Children of Darkness"

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RadenWA
RadenWA

Seems all the worst and abusive rehabilitation, school, cult etc was made by ex-addicts...maybe the fact that they were addicts in the first place is a sign that they just aren’t fit for these kinds of things?

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Jáchym Hodek
Jáchym Hodek

When you beat up broken glass, it only gets sharper and more harder to detect.

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Madison Freedman
Madison Freedman

Well I finally hear someone talking about Maine and this is what it’s about...

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you2angel1
you2angel1

You're insight is so refreshing. It's nice to hear from somebody who actually takes the time to research the topics before they go off on it. Thank you °~.☆.~°

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cody andrews
cody andrews

Should do one on scientology, the sea org and narannon.

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Ri Àl Vi Ta
Ri Àl Vi Ta

Blair should investigate the people who pressed the dislike button in any of her videos.

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enriched macaroni product
enriched macaroni product

I don't think anyone can say 100% that this shit *can't* help. but i will always say that there is a better way

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Julia Jenuine
Julia Jenuine

"If you had enough money, your kids' problems were severe enough to send them there."

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The MD Goatman
The MD Goatman

This wasn't a case of cancel culture. Cancel culture is one based on feelings and faux outrage, rather than actual harm being done.

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Bionically Challenged
Bionically Challenged

The entire procedure involved with this 'camp' is directly harmful by all psychological metrics.

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Fishycat
Fishycat

What the actual— I was binging your videos about two weeks ago, and I thought about Elan, since I’ve read texts and seen documents about it (the case has interested me for a few years). I thought to myself that wouldn’t it be interesting if you covered this topic. Today I come and look at your recent videos and this pops up. Illumina(ugh)ti confirmed.

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jam ham
jam ham

I really should have taken that trier warning seriously....

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Ben Renner
Ben Renner

I know somebody who went to one of these places... came back worse off.. sad really how they treat kids

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Tatiana G
Tatiana G

tampons in her hair? you mean a tampon crown TOUCHING HER FACE-

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Austin the Inuk Robinson
Austin the Inuk Robinson

This school sounds terrible but it’s mild compared to the residential schools in Canada and America

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Izzy Belle
Izzy Belle

I go to a school that hired one of the teachers that used to work in Elan. A woman on TikTok spoke out on how furious she was about the fact that someone who gave her PTSD as a child is still able to work with children. When people started finding out (because of her) that he's still a teacher, they went to the school and began interrogating it. My school took no responsibility. He still works at my school and I'm terrified of him knowing he used to work here.

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Yes Man
Yes Man

u go to hyde huh?

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Unknown Boi
Unknown Boi

imagine your company gets cancelled but a triangle

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morganaravens
morganaravens

I knew a kid who was sent to a school like this in Utah, no clue the name. He was a pretty messed up kid, extremely violent, abusive and meds only helped so much. When he came out he was a meathead. His violence and abusive nature were controlled, but not gone and simply switched to other things. He joined the military because he wanted to "keep hurting people" he said...never will forget that smile. He may have been calm, but he was more terrifying after that school. It took til his 30s to realize how messed up he was and got help. He doesn't want to have kids out of fear he'll pass his genetics on. Thankfully after getting REAL help, he's got a great job and he's happy, though still seems afraid to be too close to anyone :( Sure kids like him need help, but mental care, not abuse

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Joshua Reilly
Joshua Reilly

Turn about ranch??

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Josh
Josh

My highschool and a lot of others in my area ran a program where we would essentially "lend" teachers to a rehabilitation school. They were specially certified and the teachers were hand picked for their empathy towards the students. I still hear stories about how great that school was for them. Guess what. No abuse. No attack therapy. No aggressive Lord of the Flies assaults. Just patience and care.

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Black Box
Black Box

The troubled teen industry needs to die.

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Lauren Eisman Talks
Lauren Eisman Talks

my brother went here from 1995-1999...it ruined him.

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Kiera Todd
Kiera Todd

Wow. That attack therapy thing sounds like what those people who do acceptable targeting are trying to do. Fuck acceptable targeting. I could go on and on, but that's what my thoughts boil down to. Fuck justifying bullying anybody, especially children.

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Hailey Johnson
Hailey Johnson

yuht im the town over from this place

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Emily Orton
Emily Orton

If parents ever did these things to their own kids then the people would scream ABUSE and the kids would be taken away. How on earth can we have these organizations being PAID to abuse kids!!?? Parents who send their kids to these places should also be held accountable!!!

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Lucas Thompson
Lucas Thompson

Legend has it the students blood sweetens the springs of Poland, Maine

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Dana Jensen
Dana Jensen

and i thought insane asylums were bad

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Andrew Schmitt
Andrew Schmitt

Can you talk about those FIRST 5 California for your next video please?

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MayaConnolly
MayaConnolly

Istg these people go "we're going to use techniques that anyone with common knowledge knows will ruin people's lives" and then go shocked Pikachu face when it ruins people's lives. Idiotic to the bone. Beyond that, stories like this scare me - my mother thinks I'm a "problem child" when all I do is talk back to her when I'm in a bad mood and get bad grades. She groups me in with teens who abuse drugs, skip school, steal, and other things of the sort, when I'm not even close to that nonsense. I may have a level of self-hatred (which I'd also blame my mother on tbh (tl;dr, if you're a parent, make sure your kids don't attribute their grades to their value as a person)), but that doesn't mean that I belong with people with real issues. I'm very afraid that my mother at one point will decide that it would be a good idea to send me to places like this.

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Dani Cirone
Dani Cirone

Hearing Bangor is so weird, I went to college there and it felt so out of touch with the rest of the world haha

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Dimitri Tucker
Dimitri Tucker

Can you do a treatment program called Innercept? It’s located in Coeur d’Alene, ID. A “student” there died by suicide.

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Mothman’s Boyfriend
Mothman’s Boyfriend

"Written by Mark Fuhrman, a former LAPD detective " I mean I guess that's not incorrect

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